EPISODE GUIDE

Is your clutter quietly costing you your time, focus, and confidence? Organizing expert Julie Morgenstern explains why decluttering isn’t just about your closet, and how to get those things back.

Lisa first met Julie 21 years ago, when Julie led a training for McKinsey’s DC office, and Lisa still follows the morning rule Julie taught that day. In this reunion, Julie explains why disorganization isn’t a character flaw but a skill nobody taught us, how to protect your time without damaging relationships, why clutter is really an attachment to something we’re struggling to release, and how her SHED framework helps you let go and move into your next chapter. She also shares that she was notoriously disorganized herself, until becoming a mom changed everything.

What we cover:
* The morning rule Lisa has followed for 21 years
* How to get out of the automatic yes
* Why disorganization is a skill, not a character flaw Where to start when you feel like a mess
* How clutter adds to decision fatigue
* The decisions to make tonight to make tomorrow easier
* The real cost of the time we lose looking for things
* The SHED framework and how to find your treasures
* Why decluttering is about what you bring forward

0:00 - What clutter is costing you
02:25 - Meet Julie Morgenstern, Organizing and Productivity Consultant and Best-Selling Author
04:13 - Cost 1: Your boundaries (the morning rule Lisa still follows)
07:52 - How to say no without saying no
09:44 - Cost 2: Shame (you’re not lazy)
12:38 - Where to start when you feel like a mess
13:38 - How to stay organized for good
17:03 - Cost 3: Decision fatigue
20:22 - Using AI to plan your day
22:03 - 3 decisions to make tonight
23:09 - Cost 4: Your time
26:32 - Cost 5: Your identity (the SHED method)
29:46 - How to decide what to keep
31:20 - Why you can’t let go of things
33:27 - Julie’s #1 tip: start here

Julie Morgenstern is an organizing and productivity consultant, New York Times bestselling author, and speaker who has spent more than 30 years helping people overcome disorganization to achieve their goals. Her bestsellers Organizing from the Inside Out and Time Management from the Inside Out both became PBS specials, and her other books include Never Check Email in the Morning, SHED Your Stuff, Change Your Life, and Time to Parent. She has shared her expertise on The Oprah Winfrey Show, The Today Show, Good Morning America, CNN, and NPR, and her team has worked with organizations including American Express, Microsoft, Deloitte, and FedEx.